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2CPU.com » News » November 2002 » Abit is in on the Placer act too.

Abit is in on the Placer act too.

Posted by: JohNEE on: 11/09/2002 08:24 PM [ Print | 23 comment(s) ]

Hot on the heels of Iwill's board yesterday is a glance at the Abit variant, the WI-2P courtesy of mail from deadleus.
The WI-2P, a dual Intel


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timekills
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#19708 Posted on: 11/10/2002 01:37 AM
I'm somewhat surprised to see Abit try and make inroads to the Xeon/Placer platform. Granted, I'm "A-bit" biased *cough* (sorry) but I don't typically see "Abit" and "uptime/server quality" mentioned closely together unless there is a != in between.

I may not agree with your opinion, but I will defend to the death your right to express it.

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fig_wright
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#19709 Posted on: 11/10/2002 02:37 AM
My flatmate had an old Abit TX5 a good few years ago. He dumped it and got a newer baord because it wouldnt stay up for longer than 1 hour under win 98. I took the board, installed it in the box of a 486 SX25, with an old resolder power supply and installed RedHat Linux on it to use as a cable gateway. In the last 2 years it has only been taken down by about 4 power cuts. I think that Abit suffer from dodgy component supply sometimes.
Does anyone know how their AMD MPX board turned out?
Mark

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Duronimo
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#19710 Posted on: 11/10/2002 02:56 AM
Originally posted by fig_wright
Does anyone know how their AMD MPX board turned out?


Quite nonexistent. :(

Iwill MPX2 - XP2800+ (x2) - 512mb PC2700 - Radeon X850

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nipster
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#19711 Posted on: 11/10/2002 04:49 AM
what a joke... im sure this will be another stillborn waste of R&D similiar to the AMD dual K7 board

someone over there needs to wake up and realize their place in the world, im sure they could do much better finanically if they didnt blow wads of cash on projects that will never see the light of day

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#19712 Posted on: 11/10/2002 05:16 AM
Is it just me, or does the abit board lot a lot like the Iwill. The Abit has a mini-pci slot, and the heatsink on the pci-x(?) is in a different spot, but other than that, those boards look awefully similar......

Irreguardless, it's yet another abit I'll refuse to buy. Tyan and Supermicro have got my attention, respect, and wallet (by the balls :eek: )

anatolli

Life's short and hard, like a body building elf

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deadleus
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#19713 Posted on: 11/10/2002 08:58 AM
i've alyways liked abit, and i'm confident that it will rock, abit has very good motherboards.

Tyan Thunder .. "why go for less"

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deadleus
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#19714 Posted on: 11/10/2002 10:14 AM
as a guide line .. my XP2000+ and abit KR7A with crucial ECC/REG 4x256mb has been up for 148 days and still going strong @ fulload 24/7.

Abit "had" problem with some transitors and components but they are all fixed now and abit has always been the nr.1 choice for me.

Tyan Thunder .. "why go for less"

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.._Unreg_..
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#19715 Posted on: 11/10/2002 10:18 AM
Originally posted by nipster
someone over there needs to wake up and realize their place in the world, im sure they could do much better finanically if they didnt blow wads of cash on projects that will never see the light of day
Really? What planet are you on? You do realise that Abit are an OEM for Compaq and HP, don't you? Wake up to yourself. Perhaps rather than posting obvious garbage you could think a little.

Further, nearly all the Placer boards are following the Intel reference design very closely. The Abit board is actually one of the better implementations of the reference standard. Whether they can produce a solid product remains to be seen, however Compaq and HP will be one of Abit's customers. Do you think they will settle for a substandard product? Are you going to lambast them as well?

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#19716 Posted on: 11/10/2002 10:20 AM
Abit's reputation preceeds them. Blown caps, and faulty system boards (the run of BX133 that wouldn't run at 133FSB come to mind) are Abit's reputation. I seriously doubt that any big OEM is going to take an Abit board seriously. I'm expecting this board to flop like Abit's WA-2A.

anatolli

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Proxybeast
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#19717 Posted on: 11/10/2002 11:29 AM
Abit are in on the Placer act too.


:confused:

Maybe its just me, but that dose not sound right. Shouldn't it be some thing like 'Abit gets in on the placer act too' or 'Abit is in on the placer act too'. :rolleyes: , I may be wrong(?).

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JohNEE
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#19718 Posted on: 11/10/2002 04:15 PM
You may have a point there, Proxybeast - I suppose it comes down to whether you believe Abit to be plural or singular. In one way it is a single company but, in another it consists of many people and could be referred to as 'they' - I reckon we're both right :) but, I'll change it anyhow :)

J.

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#19719 Posted on: 11/10/2002 10:00 PM
While Abit has sucked it up in the past, I think they've begun to get out of that mode and are producing stable boards. I've been extremely pleased with their NV7-133R. Not much in the way of overclocking, but they've done a great deal in making it stable and fast right off the bat....let's just say I can't remember the last time I rebooted for any errors. Like most rigs, this is on 24/7 (save vacation or power outage).
I'm a little less skeptical about Abit now that the NV7 has impressed me, however, I still totally understand the postition many are taking on it.
AFAIK, Abit was only having their WA-2A as an OEM product. Weather it's actually on the market is a different story...

Their placer board is well packed though :)

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#19720 Posted on: 11/11/2002 01:07 AM
I may have to try one of these just for the RAM support.

It will be a while before I put an Abit board in a production environment though.

I wish they would make it without integrated audio though!

Cheers!

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Duronimo
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#19721 Posted on: 11/11/2002 02:56 AM
Originally posted by sharkeeper

I wish they would make it without integrated audio though!


And U320 SCSI :) Oh, and WTF is Chipkill

Iwill MPX2 - XP2800+ (x2) - 512mb PC2700 - Radeon X850

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Valnar
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#19722 Posted on: 11/11/2002 03:45 AM
With most of the Placer boards following the reference design, I'll be looking for the extras. Gigabyte does well in this area, and I'll be interested in what they come up with, if they to a dual board.

SCSI- everybody so far seems to use Adaptec.

Gigabit Ethernet - Realtek and Intel are the players so far, and I would take a board with Intel over Realtek any day.

5.1 built-in Sound - not sure, don't care.

Firewire - nobody yet, but that could be a selling point if one of them add it.

Aftermarket RAID, Serial-150.... some extras people may be interested in.

It will be an interesting race.
-Robert

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nipster
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#19723 Posted on: 11/11/2002 04:48 AM
Originally posted by .._Unreg_..
Really? What planet are you on? You do realise that Abit are an OEM for Compaq and HP, don't you? Wake up to yourself. Perhaps rather than posting obvious garbage you could think a little.



you have got to be kidding me.... abit is NOT an oem supplier for HP or compaq

Intel is, Asus is... tyan is (for a few systems) also, but NOT abit

no major oem would touch abit boards with a 10 foot pole

I was a system tech with tech-force (now equant) for several years and worked on more HP, compaq, and other oem systems than i care to remember. about 70% of them used either asus or intel motherboards, about 15% tyan, and the rest were unknown by me, DEFINETLY NOT abit

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questionlp
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#19724 Posted on: 11/11/2002 06:10 AM
Originally posted by Valnar
Gigabit Ethernet - Realtek and Intel are the players so far, and I would take a board with Intel over Realtek any day.


Don't forget 3Com and Broadcom :)

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#19725 Posted on: 11/11/2002 06:19 AM
Originally posted by questionlp
Don't forget 3Com and Broadcom :)


3Com has broadcom chipset on thier cards. (at least on many of thier cards) but I agree intel is better than realtek.

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#19726 Posted on: 11/11/2002 10:02 AM
Ive always liked Intel cards best because of teaming support built in to the drivers.

I think the Rioworks board looks pretty good, ATX, IDE Raid, Broadcom Gbit and a pretty nice layout.

Rig: I7-3820 with GTX465.

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#19727 Posted on: 11/11/2002 08:04 PM
1) Upaboveit slams his opponent with a crushing blow!

2) So how long from granite bay's introduction to the time we start seeing server boards on it? I'm intrigued bout moving into some server-level hardware, and would like a board that fully integrated. How many months do server-level boards usually lag behind chipset introductions? (Hell, on a similar note, can I even call granite bay server level? Should I be saying 'uni-proc Placer' or something like that?)

3) I'm interested in some learning about storage solutions. External SCSI enclosures, possibly RAID 6 if anyone makes a controller (it's like RAID 5, only with the abiilty to endure two disk fails, not one). If anyone has experience with this sort of thing, can you email me at link_at_cse_dot_psu_dot_edu ? (remove all underscores and translate as you see fit)

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nipster
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#19728 Posted on: 11/11/2002 10:04 PM
things must have changed in the last couple years... i could never had imagined that they would go with abit. profit margins must have dropped dramatically for them to deal with abit

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#19729 Posted on: 11/12/2002 08:30 AM
Originally posted by nipster
....... profit margins must have dropped dramatically for them to deal with abit

Pinned to the mat and down for the count, nipster still fights for all he's worth.

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rmn
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#19730 Posted on: 11/12/2002 09:50 AM
Surely, someone at Abit kidnapped their children and is threatening to kill them unless they buy Abit boards...? :p

RMN
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