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Folding@Home This week, there have been a couple of milestones: Rick5127, folding using his home equipment, broke into the top ten producer's list. Bash555, folding as DWBASH, has reached the top one hundred, and the top weekly producer, after only two weeks of folding. He's currently #72, but sure to continue his astronomical climb. Stanford has posted a FAQ regarding the new Amber core. It can be up to five times as fast for certain simulations, which means five times the benefit. It's a great time to donate CPU cycles for the folding cause. SETI@Home Within the next week, arnulf and modboy will join long-time number one Lainar at the 100,000 unit milestone. Even after five years and 5.3 million participants, there's fewer than 800 people worldwide have accomplished this, so hats off to them both. An important reminder! For those considering adding their workplace clockcycles to the 2CPU.com effort, WCPO Cincinnati has a warning that not everyone sees the benefits of distributed computing so clearly: "The Ohio Department of Job and Family Services on Thursday 7 October fired a computer programmer who admitted to using a state-owned computer server to process data for the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence project, run by the University of California at Berkeley. Charles E. Smith, 63, told administrators he didn't think loading the SETI software on the server was much of a problem because he ran the program only on weekends and on weekdays between 7 p.m. and 7 a.m., when the server wasn't being used, according to a disciplinary report. Department director Tom Hayes disagreed." Link to the full story: http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/10/08/seti.html So remember, whatever project you choose to run, if you don't own the hardware, make sure you get permission before installing or running anything. We can't stress that highly enough.

10/04/2004 02:16 PM: Semi-weekly DC Updates by BuyALambo
Folding@Home Congratulations to OC-XEONS on hitting the 10 million point mark, nearly twice as much as the second placed producer. OC-XEONS will be helping out a new folding team for a while with mos...

09/26/2004 01:46 PM: Weekend DC Updates by Hooz
Folding News There have been some personal milestones reached this week. Rick5127 will take over 11th spot from Trotador, and is poised to enter the coveted top 10, a feat that takes dedication and a...

09/13/2004 02:56 AM: Fri... Err... Sunday Night DC Updates! by Hooz
Folding News There is a new version of the Windows GUI, preview release: 5.03pre2 which has a number of various fixes, but if you want folding to run as fast as possible it is best to run the console...

09/03/2004 08:11 PM: Friday Afternoon DC Updates by BuyALambo
Folding News Not much to report this week as far as folding is concerned, Though the Grand Pubah himself (Hooz) has made it into the top 20 producers list, a fine achievement. Team wise we are holdin...

08/27/2004 01:55 PM: Friday DC Updates! - 082704 by BuyALambo
Folding News The team is performing well, averaging around 115,000 points a day, and keeping ahead of Ars Technica. Foad will probably lose his 85 P4's next week, so if everyone can find a new machin...

08/16/2004 02:14 PM: Monday Morning DC Update by BuyALambo
Folding news The team is folding full steam ahead and is now slightly outfolding the Francaphone Alliance who are in fifth place, they are 7 million points ahead though so it will be a long time befo...

08/06/2004 01:38 PM: Friday DC Updates! - 080604 by BuyALambo
Folding News Stanford has released a beta of version 5 of the folding client which has a number of new features and improvements. Check out the DC folding Forum if you'd like to give it a shot. The ...

07/31/2004 04:35 PM: Weekend DC Updates by Hooz
Folding News We are still getting an influx of new members (nine this week) which has helped us to decrease Team Eggroll's daily gain still further. foad is adding 240ghz of CPU folding power for a s...

07/23/2004 06:20 PM: Friday DC Updates! - 072304 by Hooz
I decided to try something a little different around here to show a little more support for our multitude of DC teams. With the help of our forum mods, I am going to post a weekly DC update every Frid...

JoeBleed SMP OffWorld Posts: 1250 Joined: 2001-03-23

#32603 Posted on: 11/05/2004 11:35 PM well the director's responce was uncalled for in the article. But they guy shouldn't have been running it on a server. regardless of how little work it was doing. I wouldn't haave fired the guy for it if it was his first time. but, hey that is me. I alwasys see folding and seti mentioned here. why doesn't any one mention the rc-72 ? i was working on it but my room gets too warm. :rolleyes: E-Mail, HeatWare It is OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound.

Hooz Administrator Posts: 2388 Joined: 2000-03-29

#32604 Posted on: 11/06/2004 12:06 AM Originally posted by JoeBleed I alwasys see folding and seti mentioned here. why doesn't any one mention the rc-72 ? i was working on it but my room gets too warm. :rolleyes: We had one of the top RC5-64 teams there was. When that project ended, a lot of us decided to apply our efforts to something a little more "worthwhile", like Folding@Home. I've been a big proponent of F@H for quite a while now, and since my Mother was recently diagnosed with cancer I've resolved to increase my Folding efforts even more. The important thing is to identify the DC project that is right for you and stick with it. [size=1][url="http://www.2cpu.com"]2CPU.com[/url] - Because two are always better than one! Are you folding? [url="http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=3074"]2CPU.com Folding@Home Team[/url] [url="http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=19979"]My Heatware[/url][/size]

Sinizterguy Dark & Sinizter Posts: 798 Joined: 2002-10-12

#32605 Posted on: 11/06/2004 12:10 AM Originally posted by Hooz The important thing is to identify the DC project that is right for you and stick with it. I've had a problem with that. Been through almost all the projects out there and in the end I am back with Folding ... for good. Retired member of the 2CPU DPAD Team Proud Member of 2CPU.com Folding@Home

jamesavery22 Registered User Posts: 1558 Joined: 2002-08-07

#32606 Posted on: 11/06/2004 02:17 AM Originally posted by JoeBleed well the director's responce was uncalled for in the article. But they guy shouldn't have been running it on a server. regardless of how little work it was doing. I wouldn't haave fired the guy for it if it was his first time. but, hey that is me. I alwasys see folding and seti mentioned here. why doesn't any one mention the rc-72 ? i was working on it but my room gets too warm. :rolleyes: That does suck... Im on my workstation at work right now which is running FaD. We have pretty anal software restrictions and luckily FaH and FaD isnt on their bad software list. Hopefully it will continue to be compliant for me... My Heatware

DeLarge Registered User Posts: 843 Joined: 2002-01-18

#32607 Posted on: 11/06/2004 04:56 AM Originally posted by JoeBleed I always see Folding and SETI mentioned here. Why doesn't any one mention RC5-72? I was working on it but my room gets too warm. :rolleyes: The three people most involved in writing these news reports are the DC forum mods: myself (SETI, and now BOINC), foad (Folding, but currently on a health-related sabbatical) and ayt999 (pretty much every project). Folding and SETI have attracted the most participants over the past couple of years (hence their dedicated sub-forums), but if you have anything you think is newsworthy in any of our DC Projects, you can PM any of us. I promise, we'll include it in the report that we forward to the news guys. However, while writing this I realise that people might not know this "chain of command", so I'll create a sticky thread in the General DC forum to let everyone know. Regards, DeLarge 2CPU.com BOINC SETI team admin ~ come join the hunt for little green men today

Sink Registered User Posts: 1189 Joined: 2001-08-20

#32608 Posted on: 11/06/2004 04:59 AM Where I work they strictly forbid any non-business type software, on anything. If you need it for your job, that is fine (and if it is not free you better have a license), but otherwise, no way. They do not have a sense of humor about this, even on my workstations. Anyone who ran anything without permission on a server would be walked out the door by security. I had to get approval to run blat on some boxes from the lead NT system admin. on site. This is an appropriate warning. However I am running FaH on a about 3 machines at home. I wish there was a version for Solaris on Sparc, cause those little sparkys are just great number crunchers. I used to run Seti, but then realized that "there is either no one out there, or they are so far away, that I will never contact them in my lifetime" 1. Dell Precision 670|2x2.8GHz|4096MB (quiet). 2. Sun Blade 2000 |2x900MHz UltraSparcIII-cu(64-bit)|4096MB Heat: zinken255

Sinizterguy Dark & Sinizter Posts: 798 Joined: 2002-10-12

#32609 Posted on: 11/06/2004 05:08 AM Originally posted by Sink I used to run Seti, but then realized that "there is either no one out there, or they are so far away, that I will never contact them in my lifetime" Or they might just be intelligent enough to make sure that they do not contact us - even by accident! Retired member of the 2CPU DPAD Team Proud Member of 2CPU.com Folding@Home

JoeBleed SMP OffWorld Posts: 1250 Joined: 2001-03-23

#32610 Posted on: 11/06/2004 11:08 AM Originally posted by DeLarge The three people most involved in writing these news reports are the DC forum mods: myself (SETI, and now BOINC), foad (Folding, but currently on a health-related sabbatical) and ayt999 (pretty much every project). Folding and SETI have attracted the most participants over the past couple of years (hence their dedicated sub-forums), but if you have anything you think is newsworthy in any of our DC Projects, you can PM any of us. I promise, we'll include it in the report that we forward to the news guys. However, while writing this I realise that people might not know this "chain of command", so I'll create a sticky thread in the General DC forum to let everyone know. Regards, DeLarge Didn't mean i felt rc-72 was being jilted just wondered why i never heard much about it here anymore. If for some reason i do see something i will pass it along. I don't follow any of them much any more due to living conditons. I can't stand to run anything for long. I like cold and 70F is not a temp i like sleeping or sitting in. Need a dedicated ac unit for my room. E-Mail, HeatWare It is OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound.

TiglathPZ 2CPU.com SETI cruncher Posts: 164 Joined: 2002-04-29

#32611 Posted on: 11/07/2004 04:35 AM One of the benefits of Folding@Home is that it runs very well on machines that have limited memory bandwidth. Xeons, Athlon32bit, and P3 duallies are not as efficient compared to having two similiar machines with comparable procs. Example: A single 2xP3-1000 machine of mine gets 6 seti wu a day compared to close to 8 wu a day if the procs were split up among two machines. The hit in efficiency isn't as detrimental in a ddr based AThlon32 seup but it still very measureable. 3 1/2 hrs a wu on a dual 2400+ versus 3 hrs a wu on a single 2400+. Now RC5-72 benefits from not only being memory bandwidth independent but also cache independent. RC5-72 ROCKS on a dual Athlon and dual Durons. Unfortunately. RC5-72 sucks big time last time I checked on P4 and Xeons machines. Not optomized at all for P4 architecture. So basically it comes down to economics, If I was to participate on multiple projects with multiple architectures and (even multiple teams) and maximize my production to provide the the maximum output. Using RC5-72, SETI1, Folding, DPAD(similiar to rc5-72 but also efficient on celerons P3 and P4 based). 2X opterons=SETI or anything that loves mem bandwidth. Not RC5-72 because a 2x2GHZ OPT isn't that much better than a older 2X2GHz AMP32bit on rc5-72( this is based on my observation of a single 2GHZ Athlon64(3200+,1meg 754) vs a single 2GHZ AXP on a A7N266-VM). Single Athlon 64,FX,Opteron= same as above 2XZeons=(definitely a mobile armor) 4Xinstances of Folding makes this a clear winner of efficient use. Single H-T P4=SETI1 all the way my 3.06 Rambus1066 crunches more than that 3200+ATHLON64 14-16 vs 12 wu a day Dual AMP32bit=RC5-72(especially dual durons) definitely and DPAD\Folding. But my Athlon systems single and dual tend to be used as firebrigades. My dual 2400+AMP does 13.33 wu a day. Single Athlon32bit, Semron=Firebrigades, were the better than P4 back in the day and are still good. P4 Celeron=sucks 128L2 made the suck in Folding, My older 1.2 Cel matched a 2.4 in SETI1 and ya RC5-72 sucked. I still have to thoroughly test out the new prescotts(might be worth a damn). 2XP3 and 1xP3=Folding all the way. Easy to Find parts for make them cheap Folders as long you got most of the parts. I wouldn't purchase one for real cash but grabbing a board cheap from justdeals.com( http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/p2bds.html ) (nov5-04)and using the junk laying around the basement makes it worth it. Celeron P3=Smoke im on DPAD while I got em. Now this is based on what I have access to and the money in my Pocket. I'm not going to buy a Dual Xeon$$$$ machine to run RC5-72 when a Fry $200 dollar special or 2(AXP based) can do more for cheaper. I'm not going to sell my trusty 2xP3-1000 and pay the premium to acquire a 3200+Atlon64 for Folding. This is only a farming perspective using scarce resources(cash and time), a bias against Ebaying, and the fact that I have access to older junk(already have it, cheap to trade for it). This reflects my wants right now in DCing. I would rather have a single AThlon64 for gaming than a 1/2 dozen dual P3 setups because of the utility and power of that single system for gaming. If I make money using Newtek Lightwave than definetly put two opterons in my system. Underpaid, Overworked, Welcome to the Tech industry.

TiglathPZ 2CPU.com SETI cruncher Posts: 164 Joined: 2002-04-29

#32612 Posted on: 11/07/2004 04:44 AM Oh. the dude that caught SETIing Charles E. Smith, 63 Kindoff close to retirement. Bet costs more in pay and benefits than a new 20ish programmer. Probably goes home to his wife at night and doesn't like to work overtime as much as a kid. Department director Tom Hayes disagreed. "I understand his desire to search for intelligent life in outer space, because obviously he doesn't find it in the mirror in the morning," Hayes said. "I think that people can be comfortable that security has beamed this man out of our building." Personal bias there and definetly some animosity. Maybe the old guy has prior issues with his boss. I bet he wouldn't be fired if his boss liked him personally. Probably would have busted him for something else if he wasn't caught DCing.(five minutes late from lunch, your FIRED). Underpaid, Overworked, Welcome to the Tech industry.

JoeBleed SMP OffWorld Posts: 1250 Joined: 2001-03-23

#32613 Posted on: 11/07/2004 10:08 AM good point. i didn't think about that. i have seen that happen where i work. E-Mail, HeatWare It is OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound.

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