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2CPU.com » News » September 2002 » Detonator 40.XX. How do they Stack up?

Detonator 40.XX. How do they Stack up?

Posted by: Jim on: 09/02/2002 04:19 PM [ Print | 12 comment(s) ]

Our buddies over at Hot Hardware have put NVIDIA's latest monumental driver release, their 40.xx series, to the test.
The new Detonator 40.41 drivers deliver on what NVIDIA claims, though. Mainly, gamers get a little extra performance and more business-oriented users have a couple new features to increase productivity.
It's true other people have posted articles on these new drivers, but I was waiting for a site I read on a regular basis to take care of business.

While I'm still down in the US of A visiting Papa Hooz, Cory has been re-running the benchmarks on my Dual rigs up in Canada with these new drivers for the upcoming mammoth video card article we're preparing. I'm still two prestonia's shy of an i860 test platform (I have everything else), but hopefully we can get that resolved ASAP to make this article even more meaningful.

Check out their look at NVIDIA's new drivers.


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#18211 Posted on: 09/02/2002 10:02 PM
zZzz...wha? Oh, sorry. Must have dozed off there while I was waiting for SPECviewperf to finish doing its thing  ;)

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agroblock
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#18212 Posted on: 09/03/2002 12:34 AM
No one is going to do it but benchmarks of older equipment (for us with TNT's and the like) with the new drivers would be useful. Should one assume that these performance increases apply equally to the whole NVIDIA product range after all?
I think performance increases are more important for those users/machines where raw processing power is not a commodity (latest and greatest equipment).

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#18213 Posted on: 09/03/2002 02:52 AM
Holy Shit! They must have fixed some issues I was having on my setup or something! :)
I get:
Q3: +26%
UT (OGL): No change
UT (D3D): +24%
Strange, but I aint complaining  ;)
Mark

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#18214 Posted on: 09/03/2002 04:26 AM
They are a little faster for me, but they make my wife's computer crash hard after about 10 minutes in Neverwinter Nights. No problems whith the latest WHQL drivers though.

I seem to always have problems with the latest and greatest Dets. I guess its time to get a new Vid Card.

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#18215 Posted on: 09/03/2002 05:19 AM
I'd stay away from the new drivers if you have old hardware. I tried them on my diamond viper tnt2(non-ultra) in xp and they were terrible.

gained a few points in 3dmark but all quake 3 based games took a major hit. lowered fps, bad tearing, artifacts, no matter the brightness settings it was too dark, etc. :confused:

All I have installed is quake3, mohaa, and sof2 demo but I'm guessing it's a general opengl issue becuase directx games like ages of empires 2, roller coaster tycoon, etc were fine...

i'm currently running 29.42s btw

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#18216 Posted on: 09/03/2002 06:56 AM
I think the old hardware thing is my problem, I'm still running a PNY GF2 mx 400 64MB.

I'm running just fine right now with the 30.82 WHQL drivers, and they seem pretty good. Not the fastest, and missing some of the fancy new features in the Dets, but they are stable. And whats the point of running a game (not that I play that many anyhow) 5% faster if it crashes after 5 minutes of play.

I should just throw my VooDoo 3-3500TV back in there, it has way better 2d, is just about as fast, and scales very well with CPU speed increases. But then drivers become even more of a problem.

Thats ok, maybe a Radeon 9700 will be in my future.

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#18217 Posted on: 09/03/2002 07:04 AM
They fixed a lot of issues in my wife's machine. Her GF4 Ti4200 had a lot of texture corruption issues in UT and seemed a little lagged in Diablo 2. Tyan 2460 Dual Duron 1.1s
On the other hand, My GF3 had problems with them. Diablo 2 and other DirectX games had a strange stutter to the refresh that seemed to make the lower half of the screen jump right a couple pixels every few seconds. UT worked fine, and falling back to the WHQL drivers fixed mine back up. Asus A7M-D 1700+s

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#18218 Posted on: 09/03/2002 07:16 AM
they worked great on my laptop, but slowed down openGL on my Asus a7m-266d -- it now takes about three times as long to render something as it did before.

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#18219 Posted on: 09/03/2002 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Jim_
Cory has been re-running the benchmarks on my Dual rigs up in Canada with these new drivers for the upcoming mammoth video card article we're preparing.

guys! my admiration towards you folks know now bounds!! (i've my knee was in better shape, i'd be on my knees bowing and proclaiming 'i'm not worthy, i'm not worthy'... :D ) running benchmarks is a b!tch of a job! sitting through hours upon hours of repetitive runs is simply mind-bending... :eek: i once benchmarked a few rigs with a few friends of mine to see where things stood. to go through the fresh os installs, drivers, benchmark programs, reboots between tests, etc, etc... us not being pro's - it was a drag!!! :rolleyes: took us the whole weekend! :eek:

with all that said, i really look forward to see this mammoth vid card article (as with any other reviews in 2cpu.com!!) :)

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#18220 Posted on: 09/04/2002 08:35 AM
Holy Shit! They must have fixed some issues I was having on my setup or something!
I get:
Q3: +26%
UT (OGL): No change
UT (D3D): +24%
Strange, but I aint complaining
Mark


Notice how only the D3D numbers changed?

According to some people at Tech-Report (http://www.tech-report.com ) The new drivers use point-sampling by default in D3D mode. This means no anti-aliasing, so it looks, and I quote from comments "asstastic".

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#18221 Posted on: 09/07/2002 10:55 PM
Just another step by nvid to keep in the race, (as usual) at the cost of some of the worst mipmapping I have ever seen. They are simply unacceptable by me. This on both a gf3ti200 and a pny gf4ti4400.
Oh for the 28.32s or 23.11s.

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Thinktank
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#18222 Posted on: 09/10/2002 12:06 AM
I noticed that particle effects in Discreet Combustion were severely crippled by the new driver(40.xx) and would recommend anybody using Combustion, avoid this driver. I've heard that the new driver has problems with most OpenGL programs and would suggest you test your applications before you abandon the older driver.

Someone should test Maya and 3DS Max.

I am using Gainward ti200 and 30.xx drivers. MSI Dual Master -L and Tiger MP both with same video card.

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