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Dropping the Hammer

Posted by: HEMI on: 04/23/2003 01:22 AM [ Print | 20 comment(s) ]

Most people won't get to see/play with an x86-64-based machine for a while, but lots of hardware sites already have a Hammer or two in their hands. If you want to see how a Hammer works hit up these reviews/previews:

• Ace's Hardware


• AMDZone


• C|Net (a collection of articles)


• Tom's Hardware Guide


• X-bit Labs

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GNU_Raiz Registered User Posts: 139 Joined: 2003-02-26

#22526 Posted on: 04/23/2003 05:51 AM Nice I like how you put AcesHardware first! You could of left off Toms, a lot of people on :/. seem to have a problem loading the page. http://slashdot.org/articles/03/04/22/127204.shtml?tid=142&tid=118&tid=137 Keep em comming. Gnu_Raiz Use it, promote it, live it! Open Software! Open Source Libre Office!

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HEMI Administrator Posts: 2716 Joined: 2001-12-18

#22527 Posted on: 04/23/2003 05:59 AM Originally posted by GNU_Raiz I like how you put AcesHardware first! Gotta dig that crazy alphabetical order organizational method. I need to start "AardvarkHardware" so I can be first... I had no problems getting to the THG review. Unix is user-friendly; it's just picky about its friends.

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mattsteg Senior Member Posts: 981 Joined: 2000-05-07

#22528 Posted on: 04/23/2003 06:40 AM I think THG just blocked referrals from /. or something. Hello.

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burmese Registered User Posts: 186 Joined: 2002-01-20

#22529 Posted on: 04/23/2003 07:41 AM He also appears to have broken NDA by quite a few hours this morning. I saw his review around 5 am CST when I first got up. ~\_/~\_O Burmese

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Mr Bill two by two, hands of blue Posts: 2939 Joined: 2002-02-16

#22530 Posted on: 04/23/2003 10:53 AM I read the THG review at 1230 am MST. Poorly done I thought. The Ace's review is better written and better informed. My SMP rig [URL="http://personal.palouse.net/billshan/ghost.htm#A_Merlin"]Merlin[/URL]

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HEMI Administrator Posts: 2716 Joined: 2001-12-18

#22531 Posted on: 04/23/2003 11:01 AM Originally posted by mattsteg I think THG just blocked referrals from /. or something. Hrm, maybe THG does have a good idea there... Unix is user-friendly; it's just picky about its friends.

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mattsteg Senior Member Posts: 981 Joined: 2000-05-07

#22532 Posted on: 04/23/2003 11:08 AM Originally posted by Mr Bill I read the THG review at 1230 am MST. Poorly done I thought. The Ace's review is better written and better informed. I liked Aces best also. Their articles are always extremely clear and well written while covering their material in more depth than most. Hello.

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proffesso Winner of the Internet Posts: 1485 Joined: 2001-06-25

#22533 Posted on: 04/23/2003 11:12 AM the Xbit review is about as helpful as fish sticks... chasing tokyo girls

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Insp. Gadget Registered User Posts: 89 Joined: 2003-04-17

#22534 Posted on: 04/23/2003 11:31 AM As most of their other reviews. Actually, no, fish sticks you can eat. BTW, who else thinks the "Athlon 64" in the Xbit review is actually just a repackaged Opteron? Ace's are usually the best, closely followed by Anand's (yes, loads of fluff and loads of ads, but at least he usually gets the facts straight and knows what he's doing).

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Mr Bill two by two, hands of blue Posts: 2939 Joined: 2002-02-16

#22535 Posted on: 04/23/2003 11:38 AM I also like Tech Reports board/CPU reviews. I wonder if they will get one in to review? My SMP rig [URL="http://personal.palouse.net/billshan/ghost.htm#A_Merlin"]Merlin[/URL]

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eFrisky Euro-liberal Posts: 581 Joined: 2002-01-20

#22536 Posted on: 04/23/2003 02:16 PM I don't want to shame them too much, but the folks over at amdzone seem to have a few problems interpreting their POVray benchmarking results - and deciding if a higher or lower figure is better... hehe http://www.amdzone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1270&page=9 Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant

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Jizzler Multi-Core Zealot Posts: 2040 Joined: 2000-10-28

#22537 Posted on: 04/23/2003 06:02 PM Go Aceshardware! The rest of them are wasting valible internet bandwidth with their crap. We'd be better off if they served beastiality and scat movies.

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Jizzler Multi-Core Zealot Posts: 2040 Joined: 2000-10-28

#22538 Posted on: 04/23/2003 06:05 PM Originally posted by proffesso the Xbit review is about as helpful as fish sticks... Pretty sad I used to really like Xbit, now even their news reports are editorials! A don't want some one-sided news report, I just want the news!

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stmok Registered User Posts: 490 Joined: 2001-06-25

#22539 Posted on: 04/23/2003 06:35 PM Originally posted by Jizzler Go Aceshardware! The rest of them are wasting valible internet bandwidth with their crap. We'd be better off if they served beastiality and scat movies. Ha! Agreed! With all those ads, Tom's Hardware might as well be Tom's Pornware. All they need is Java-based pop-ups to complete the site. Tom's is still bloated even if you block their ad servers that send you the banner ads, disable graphics, and turn off Java script. Xbit is still slow even when I disable the picts and graphics. (I read it for the news mainly...Unless an Interesting article pops into the scene.) Little OT : How come 2cpu.com forums and Ace's Hardware reviews loads quite quickly? Is it the way the software is optimised? You guys did custom tweaks? (Because even with ads and picts, its still reasonably fast.) I go on Aussie sites like overclockers.com.au and their forums chug a bit. (This is my Cable that is speed capped to 3KB/s, since I plowed over the 3GB monthly limit. ) 2x PIII 1Ghz (100Mhz FSB) + BX|2x PIII 933Mhz + i840|1x Celeron 500Mhz + BX for now

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bascheew He who rarely posts. Posts: 23 Joined: 2001-05-11

#22540 Posted on: 04/23/2003 07:04 PM Anandtech has an excellent multi-part series covering the Opteron. Only two parts are up as I type, the first is on the architechture and the second has SMP benches. Surely more will come in the following days -- an excellent read. http://www.anandtech.com/ This statement is false.

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ShaneBrooks Unregistered

#22541 Posted on: 04/23/2003 07:06 PM Originally posted by stmok Ha! Agreed! With all those ads, Tom's Hardware might as well be Tom's Pornware. All they need is Java-based pop-ups to complete the site.{{snip}} Wonderboy has made his site virtually unreadable with all the ad content. That and he is spinning his Opteron coverage over 2 days and 4 articles to maximise the page views. .. makes for a hard read.

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Brad 30105 in 3dmark 03 Posts: 3646 Joined: 2000-12-06

#22542 Posted on: 04/24/2003 12:05 AM the toms hardware review was just complete crap. he referred to a dual xeon board as a granite bay board, they used sisoft sandra!!!! and I'm sure there was one other **** up. I quite like anand's approach, I think it will give us all much more information overall than just one article. Clevo D870P Notebook, P4 3.4ghz NW, 1gb DDR400, Intel 865PE, ATI 9700 Pro 256mb, 60gb, 80gb, DVDRW, 17" LCD, TV Tuner, 1 hour battery life Athlon 64 3700 Sandy @ 9x315 with XP-120, Asus A8N32-SLI, 2x 512mb PC3200 @ 315mhz 2.5/3/4/8, 2x 7800GTX @ 490/1325, 1x 74gb Raptor, 3x 160gb SATA, Audigy 2 ZS, Silverstone TJ-03, Zippy 700w. P4 3.46 Gallatin EE at 12x300, Supermicro PDSGE, 2gb DDR2 @ 600, 6x 250gb, 6x 200gb, Promise SX6000, Adaptec 2610SA, Acbel 550w 7800GTX 512mb's on their way

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SUOrangeman Finally went SMP Posts: 690 Joined: 2002-01-23

#22543 Posted on: 04/24/2003 01:47 AM What ads would those be? [URL=http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.html?i=1816]I don't see (m)any![/URL] -SUO, prefers reading the printable versions SuperMicro X7DCA-L-O (mATX) | 2x Intel Xeon L5420 | 6x 2GB Kingston Reg DDR2-667 | Intel G2 160GB SSD + 2x WD2002FYPS + Seagate 4TB | GalaxyTech 8800GT HDMI| 2x Asus MS228H | Win7 Ultimate x64

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spikegifted I do what? Posts: 6131 Joined: 2000-07-24

#22544 Posted on: 04/24/2003 06:00 AM Originally posted by HEMI Ace's Hardware These folks are heavy! spikegifted.net "At the very beginning of the 19th century chemists generally thought that compounds from living organisms were too complicated in structure to be capable of artificial synthesis from non-living things, and that a 'vital force' or vitalism conferred the characteristics of living beings on this form of matter." Well, how wrong were they? So much for dogma...

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vlads #1 in 2CPU distr. folding Posts: 232 Joined: 2001-12-22

#22545 Posted on: 04/24/2003 12:58 PM Microsoft, of all entities, also benchmarked some Opterons for us, with (edit: Exchange) no less, in two and four-way configurations: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/planning/2000/perfscal.asp Needless to say, Opterons come on on top of Xeons in each of 2P and 4P categories. By the way, read over the configurations of those Opteron systems, they're simply mind-boggling! Iwill MPX2, 2x Barton @ 16*133=2133MHz, 1024MB Reg ECC DDR, Radeon 9700 pro, 4x 40GB Maxtor D740X in RAID10 on 3ware 7410, 500W EPS12V PSU, unstable ATM ...