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Early Intel X7505 Details

Posted by: Cory on: 10/16/2002 03:18 PM [ Print | 29 comment(s) ]

While Papa Hooz tells me that the NDA on Intel's X7505 chipset doesn't expire until sometime in November, that hasn't stopped Amazon International from posting details on Supermicro's X5DA8, which is based on the X7505. They're expecting test results to be posted in a few days time, so it'd be wise to keep an eye on that page (not that we won't be doing so ourselves ).

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bigdady92 Registered User Posts: 38 Joined: 2001-09-27

#19177 Posted on: 10/16/2002 08:02 PM dady wants one...dual xeons and 8X AGP AND SCSI 320...what's not to love???

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questionlp the Cowardly Tech Posts: 323 Joined: 2002-02-14

#19178 Posted on: 10/16/2002 08:05 PM I didn't know there were such things as 00Mhz PCI-X slots. I know, I know... it's a typo and it's supposed to be 100Mhz PCI-X. Maybe questionlp might stray towards dual Xeons for his next machine...... but looking at my wallet, I'm probably stuck with my dual P2-400 for a little while longer. [http://closedsrc.org/] My Rig: 2x 2.4GHz Xeon, 1GB PC2700, Supermicro X5DAL-TG2, ATI AIW 9000, SB Audigy 2 Plat/EX, 2x 80GB 7200.7's, Plextor 40x and 8/20, Pioneer 106D, Antec 1000AMG, Enermax 460W EPS-12V

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Giuliano Registered User Posts: 68 Joined: 2002-10-16

#19179 Posted on: 10/16/2002 08:51 PM Check out this PDF: http://www.users-factory.com/img/2002/10/09/X5DA8.pdf Full specs, in English, and pretty damn cool looking.

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questionlp the Cowardly Tech Posts: 323 Joined: 2002-02-14

#19180 Posted on: 10/16/2002 09:01 PM Sooo... there is a 533Mhz FSB version of the Xeon coming out, eh? So would the cost be a bit more than their current i860 boards or would it be closer to their higher-end E7500 motherboards? [http://closedsrc.org/] My Rig: 2x 2.4GHz Xeon, 1GB PC2700, Supermicro X5DAL-TG2, ATI AIW 9000, SB Audigy 2 Plat/EX, 2x 80GB 7200.7's, Plextor 40x and 8/20, Pioneer 106D, Antec 1000AMG, Enermax 460W EPS-12V

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Giuliano Registered User Posts: 68 Joined: 2002-10-16

#19181 Posted on: 10/16/2002 09:07 PM I had assumed there would be a 533mhz-based Xeon eventually, but I really like the fact that this board/chipset has an AGP slot, and 64-bit PCI-X. From what I have read, PCI-X should be backwards compatable to PCI 2.2 (64-bit, 66Mhz). I'm looking into the new Intel Serial-ATA 4-port RAID controller, which looks pretty swanky, and expected to price around $300: http://www.intel.com/design/storage/raid/srcs14l.htm One of the reasons I'm interested in 64-bit PCI/PCI-X.

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questionlp the Cowardly Tech Posts: 323 Joined: 2002-02-14

#19182 Posted on: 10/16/2002 09:19 PM The Intel RAID controller looks nice... mostly when they state support for FreeBSD and that it runs at 64-bit/66Mhz (compared to 64-bit/33Mhz that the 3Ware card runs at). If the price will be around $300, then it will definitely be a competitive option as the 3Ware card starts in the $400-450 range (Source: CDW - http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=418277) Still... some people will still say that SCSI is the best way to go and they are right in a lot of cases. But for someone who wants a decently fast yet inexpensive RAID solution, ATA/SATA does it's job. [http://closedsrc.org/] My Rig: 2x 2.4GHz Xeon, 1GB PC2700, Supermicro X5DAL-TG2, ATI AIW 9000, SB Audigy 2 Plat/EX, 2x 80GB 7200.7's, Plextor 40x and 8/20, Pioneer 106D, Antec 1000AMG, Enermax 460W EPS-12V

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Vuke69 Bitpimp Posts: 341 Joined: 2001-03-16

#19183 Posted on: 10/16/2002 09:20 PM Originally posted by Giuliano I'm looking into the new Intel Serial-ATA 4-port RAID controller, which looks pretty swanky, and expected to price around $300: http://www.intel.com/design/storage/raid/srcs14l.htm Sweet, I have been looking for a low profile IDE RAID 5 card. This is the first one I have seen. If they only had an 8 port version.

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Giuliano Registered User Posts: 68 Joined: 2002-10-16

#19184 Posted on: 10/16/2002 09:28 PM I've been looking into the whole Serial ATA emerging technology, and most of what I've found has been somewhat disappointing. Namely, most Serial ATA (RAID or non) implementations out there right now are standard ATA controllers (Promise, Highpoint), with Marvel Serial-ATA converter chips stuck on the end. Needless to say, that limits the speed to at most 133MB/s (ATA-133), has overhead due to the conversion, and has limited RAID features (expansion, conversion, etc). Only one (mother) board I've seen so far has a native PCI Serial-ATA controller, the Silicon Image 3112a 2-port controller, and that board is the recently released Intel D845PEBT2, a P4 board based on the new i845PE chipset. http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bt2/index.htm?iid=ipp_dlc_deskmb+p4pmb_d845pebt2 Admittedly, by itself, a pretty swanky board, but it's still a single-CPU board. The Silicon Image SATA controller also does (software) RAID, either RAID 0 or 1.

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rmn oh my, it's huge! Posts: 5894 Joined: 2002-01-26

#19185 Posted on: 10/16/2002 10:02 PM Originally posted by Giuliano Needless to say, that limits the speed to at most 133MB/s (ATA-133), Do you know any IDE drive that's faster than that...? :confused: RMN ~~~

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Giuliano Registered User Posts: 68 Joined: 2002-10-16

#19186 Posted on: 10/16/2002 10:16 PM Serial ATA's supposed to run at 150MB/s, not 133. Seagate has some Serial ATA drives coming out soon, in 120GB and 80 GB sizes. Barracuda 120GB Serial ATA: http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,563,00.html Barracuda 80GB Serial ATA: http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,564,00.html Last time I checked, the 120GB disks are pre-sale price listed at about $170. I believe Maxtor is/will be coming out with SATA drives, too.

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anatolli Registered User Posts: 1881 Joined: 2001-07-18

#19187 Posted on: 10/16/2002 10:43 PM show me an IDE drive (any standard) that can get data off of the platters at 66MB/s, then I'll be impressed. btw, where there actual specs on the board on AI's website? The only thing up there now basically says: "Yeah, we got something cool, we'll tell ya about it later." anatolli Life's short and hard, like a body building elf

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Hooz Administrator Posts: 2388 Joined: 2000-03-29

#19188 Posted on: 10/17/2002 02:01 AM I guess Supermicro didn't get the memo [size=1][url="http://www.2cpu.com"]2CPU.com[/url] - Because two are always better than one! Are you folding? [url="http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=3074"]2CPU.com Folding@Home Team[/url] [url="http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=19979"]My Heatware[/url][/size]

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Giuliano Registered User Posts: 68 Joined: 2002-10-16

#19189 Posted on: 10/17/2002 02:22 AM Also found this, the Thunder S2665 dual-Xeon board: http://www.users-factory.com/img/2002/10/12/S2665specv03.pdf Looks to be slightly different than the previously mentioned X5DA8 board, based on the specs. (no picture) This version supports only up to 4GB RAM, but has Firewire.

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MultimediaMan S3n10R D3s!gN 3ng!n33r Posts: 1457 Joined: 2000-05-12

#19190 Posted on: 10/17/2002 07:47 AM Is that like never or neverever? November or never in November? . .. ... .... ..... ...... ....... Bueller? ........ ......... .......... Bueller? Thus far, you have been adrift within the sheltered harbor of my patience. Heat All of my heatware comes from Transactions on this board. 2CPU.com is the only board I trade on. I can provide references from other board members on request.

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guru Moving to 64-bits Posts: 194 Joined: 2001-05-11

#19191 Posted on: 10/17/2002 05:51 PM The Intel SATA RAID card is swank, but how will it compare to the current crop of U160 SCSI RAID cards? I have an LSI MegaRAID 550 that is lightning fast. I only have 35GB on it (5x9.1 Ultrastars) but it formats in under 30 seconds and can really move data. Does anyone know of any SATA Hotswap modules out there? Got an Opteron or Athlon64? Sign up at PlanetAMD64, the unofficial homepage for AMD64 technology. News, reviews, and discussion forums.

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Cory <font color="#E22000">Do you like my hat? It's made of MONEY!</font> Posts: 413 Joined: 2000-05-19

#19192 Posted on: 10/17/2002 07:26 PM Jeff sent in a link to a picture of the 7505. It's about half way down the page. [url="http://www.2cpu.com"]www.2cpu.com[/url] [url="http://www.cory-grimster.org/boxen.html"]Boxen[/url]

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Giuliano Registered User Posts: 68 Joined: 2002-10-16

#19193 Posted on: 10/17/2002 07:55 PM Wow, just about everybody and their brother is coming out with a 7505-based dual-Xeon board. Tyan, Supermicro, MSI, Iwill, Abit, and Asustek. Interesting notes: The MSI and ABIT boards both seem to have a Mini PCI connector, but for the life of me, I can't see it on the board. The MSI's Mini-PCI is rumored to be for use with Wireless Lan modules of some kind. The Xeon sockets have changed from 603 pins to 604 pins. No doubt that the 400Mhz-based CPU's will still work. The MSI board seems to have a tiny extension to one of the 64-bit PCI slots... what is it? The Iwill board has some interesting colorations of the 64-bit PCI slots. I'd imagine that the green one is the PCI-X/133, like on the Supermicro board.. but what's with the red one? [Edit: The Red slot is PCI-X/133, the White slot is PCI-X/100, and the Green slot is PCI-X/100 and Zero-Channel-RAID (ZCR) support. ] Very cool, in all...

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questionlp the Cowardly Tech Posts: 323 Joined: 2002-02-14

#19194 Posted on: 10/17/2002 08:05 PM The MSI and ABIT boards both seem to have a Mini PCI connector, but for the life of me, I can't see it on the board. The MSI's Mini-PCI is rumored to be for use with Wireless Lan modules of some kind. The "Mini-PCI" connector is for an Adaptec/Intel zero-channel RAID controller upgrade for the built-in dual channel SCSI controller (check one of the images in the top-half of the page, you will see an image of the connector close up and mention Adaptec and SCSI). Supermicro and other motherboard manufacturers have used the same idea in the past and in their current servers. Also take a look at many of the Compaq Proliant DL-series servers, they also have a SO-DIMM like connector used for a RAID controller, so that you don't have to use up any valuable PCI/PCI-X slots (which people would put in a Fibre-Channel, Out-of-Band management board, etc.) WiFi doesn't really make a whole lot of sense in a workstation board... but for a desktop board, it would make a bit more sense. But that's just me. As far as the extra connector on the end of one of the MSI PCI-X slots... it's probably used for some proprietary card or a riser card, where the extra pins provide additional power for say, one or two cards. [http://closedsrc.org/] My Rig: 2x 2.4GHz Xeon, 1GB PC2700, Supermicro X5DAL-TG2, ATI AIW 9000, SB Audigy 2 Plat/EX, 2x 80GB 7200.7's, Plextor 40x and 8/20, Pioneer 106D, Antec 1000AMG, Enermax 460W EPS-12V

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Giuliano Registered User Posts: 68 Joined: 2002-10-16

#19195 Posted on: 10/17/2002 09:00 PM Another 7505-board from RioWorks: http://www.rioworks.co.jp/products/pdpea.html I've never heard of them before. Anyone?

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questionlp the Cowardly Tech Posts: 323 Joined: 2002-02-14

#19196 Posted on: 10/17/2002 09:21 PM I've heard of Rioworks before, but I haven't used any of their boards yet. Looks like Tyan will have a contender with their standard ATX dual Xeon solution. The only gripe that I have with it is... why use a Promise ATA RAID controller! ugh! [http://closedsrc.org/] My Rig: 2x 2.4GHz Xeon, 1GB PC2700, Supermicro X5DAL-TG2, ATI AIW 9000, SB Audigy 2 Plat/EX, 2x 80GB 7200.7's, Plextor 40x and 8/20, Pioneer 106D, Antec 1000AMG, Enermax 460W EPS-12V

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Cory <font color="#E22000">Do you like my hat? It's made of MONEY!</font> Posts: 413 Joined: 2000-05-19

#19197 Posted on: 10/17/2002 09:55 PM Speaking of Rioworks, Jim reviewed one of their dual P3 boards a while back. [url="http://www.2cpu.com"]www.2cpu.com[/url] [url="http://www.cory-grimster.org/boxen.html"]Boxen[/url]

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questionlp the Cowardly Tech Posts: 323 Joined: 2002-02-14

#19198 Posted on: 10/17/2002 10:20 PM ick... Via chipset. I guess installing FreeBSD on the test machine redeems it though Truthfully, I think I'd rather stick with Tyan and Supermicro. Yeah, they are more expensive and their dual Xeon ATX option(s) aren't too thrilling. Unfortunately, the spec page for the Rioworks dual Xeon motherboard doesn't really say if it requires an EPS power supply or if an ATX 2.03 w/ 4-pin 12V would work. [http://closedsrc.org/] My Rig: 2x 2.4GHz Xeon, 1GB PC2700, Supermicro X5DAL-TG2, ATI AIW 9000, SB Audigy 2 Plat/EX, 2x 80GB 7200.7's, Plextor 40x and 8/20, Pioneer 106D, Antec 1000AMG, Enermax 460W EPS-12V

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Giuliano Registered User Posts: 68 Joined: 2002-10-16

#19199 Posted on: 10/17/2002 11:57 PM Originally posted by Vuke69 Sweet, I have been looking for a low profile IDE RAID 5 card. This is the first one I have seen. If they only had an 8 port version. Found this, an 8-port Serial ATA controller chipset from Marvell: http://www.marvell.com/Internet/Products/products/1,2414,4-48-231-51,00.html Best of all, it's a native PCI-X/133 chipset. I'm not sure if there's a real product that is going to be built around this chipset... but you can bet there will be.

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Vuke69 Bitpimp Posts: 341 Joined: 2001-03-16

#19200 Posted on: 10/18/2002 01:18 AM Originally posted by Giuliano Found this, an 8-port Serial ATA controller chipset from Marvell: http://www.marvell.com/Internet/Products/products/1,2414,4-48-231-51,00.html Best of all, it's a native PCI-X/133 chipset. I'm not sure if there's a real product that is going to be built around this chipset... but you can bet there will be. not too bad, this would be nice for motherboard integration. They need to add hardware RAID features (XOR processor)though to make it real interesting. It does have ATA command queuing support, and that is nice. The boundries between IDE and SCSI are getting thinner and thinner.

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Second-Hand Soul Unregistered

#19201 Posted on: 10/18/2002 07:12 PM Damn, those PDFs have been removed. Regarding SATA controller cards...... 3Ware are meant to have 4/8/12 port native SATA ones soon.