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The Inquirer has a small post up stating that Microsoft believes Longhorn will be faster than previous MS operating systems.

Those include the ability to launch apps 15% faster than Windows XP, boot PCs 50% faster, patch systems with 50% fewer reboots, and let firms migrate to Longhorn 75% per cent faster.

You can read it for yourself over here.

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#37292 Posted on: 07/19/2005 07:57 PM All you need for this to happen is just quad 9GHz CPU's, 4gig RAM and 15Krpm SCSI in raid 10! Microsofts speed claims always makes me chuckle -Class Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz and 2GiB RAM on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2GHz and 2GiB RAM on a Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe dual AMD MP2800/dual MP2200, some PIII's, a laptop, ZX81, Palm T|E and 2x SPARCstations] foynland.org

i_wolf labhair dom as gaelige Posts: 2034 Joined: 2002-11-19

#37293 Posted on: 07/19/2005 08:20 PM does it make the internet faster as well ?? Hung like a donkey. Go like a horse!

DMorgan Registered User Posts: 218 Joined: 2005-07-15

#37294 Posted on: 07/19/2005 08:27 PM Originally posted by i_wolf does it make the internet faster as well ?? Wasn't MSN supposed to make the internet seem faster? I don't know what my neighbors would have thought of the idiot in the butterfly suit. Added -- microsoft is consistent though -- my P4 2.4Ghz takes just about as long to boot XP as my 8088 did to start DOS v3. Crashes about as often too!

shoarthing Duellist Posts: 3061 Joined: 2000-07-25

#37295 Posted on: 07/19/2005 09:20 PM Originally posted by duke . . . . Those include the ability to launch apps 15% faster than Windows XP, boot PCs 50% faster, patch systems with 50% fewer reboots, and let firms migrate to Longhorn 75% per cent faster. . . . . delightfully precise & convincing figures: will it be in comparison to XP - say - 30% more expensive [as a ratio to gross system cost], run 90% of previous MS Office applications, require 175% more security fixes in its first year, demand 200% as much memory, & be adopted by 50% as many grateful users? . . . & will a Blu-ray drive be required to read the install-disk? Asus P5WDH; watercooled E6420/PSU/GPU/[encapsulated]HDDs/NBridge/SBridge/VRMs; 4GB Elixir/Nanya PC6400; 2407WFP; mac OS X 10.4.10

audioaficionado SMP aficionado too Posts: 3961 Joined: 2003-08-23

#37296 Posted on: 07/19/2005 10:11 PM Hey if it doesn't bring about world peace and eliminate world hunger, then I'm not interested. If it's loaded up with TC & DRM, then forgetaboutit! Super Micro X8DTH-iF, Dual Westmere Xeons E5620 @2.4GHz Iwill DH800, Dual Prestionia Xeons 2.4 M0 @1.50v 220Mhz 3.3GHz Micronics W6-Lightning, Dual Pentium Pro @200MHz 512 KiB L2 Location: 42.3 N 122.9 W Medford, Oregon, USA Outside with my telescopes looking at the universe

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#37297 Posted on: 07/19/2005 10:18 PM Originally posted by audioaficionado Hey if it doesn't bring about world peace and eliminate world hunger, then I'm not interested. I think that will be my new standard as well. Gotta aim high. Haha.

Manatoba Retired Comp-Tech Posts: 296 Joined: 2002-09-02

#37298 Posted on: 07/19/2005 10:47 PM They forgot to mention *the* two most important things that would help see its rapid and widespread adoption: 1) How much faster it runs Quake III 2) How much quicker it'll help you get laid Xeon - Experiment: 2x SL6EP 2.4/400@3450+|PC-DL 1.04-B05 BIOS1009|2Gb GeIL Ultra-X PC3200 2-2-2-5| Gigabyte 6600GT Fanless Heatpipes|silent Samsung HD's|Antec Titan550|stock voltages|IWT+Agilent cooler| AMD - Experiment: Opteron165 1.8@2.25 CCBWE 0551WPMW|stock heatpipe HSF|HP/nVidia QuadroFX4500| Antec TPII 550W|Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe|4Gb Corsair TwinX2048-4000PT|2x Dell 2405FPW's|more 2 come..|

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#37299 Posted on: 07/20/2005 01:17 AM While performance in an OS is important, what is more important in a MS OS these days is security. Therefore, the question Microsoft should be asking of Longhorn is: 1. Will it be safer & more secure than Windows XP? 2. How locked down will it be, in terms of Active X controls in IE, open ports, auto-installation of software, etc.) 3. How much value will the OS offer the average (emphasis on average) user. I've been seeing a lot of emphasis put on the pretty face of Longhorn (translucent windows, wiz-bang icons, etc.) without a lot of focus being put on what's really important. AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 4096 MB DDR 400MHz DDR2 RAM GeForce 9400 GT w 512 MB DDR2 Primary OS: Parsix GNU/Linux (built from Debian Testing) Compiz-Fusion Git Other OS: Windows Server 2003 SP2 (as workstation); Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs; Windows XP Pro. SP3 - via VirtualBox

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#37300 Posted on: 07/20/2005 01:22 AM Originally posted by duke Those include the ability to launch apps 15% faster than Windows XP, boot PCs 50% faster Prelinked libraries, or other mechaism to speed up DLL symbol resolve, maybe VM system to keep DLLs fixed in physical RAM.

Manatoba Retired Comp-Tech Posts: 296 Joined: 2002-09-02

#37301 Posted on: 07/20/2005 01:27 AM I've only seen articles on how much more secure it will be (a massive increase), not a single one on how "pretty" it will be. It contains many, many things which really should be in WindowsXP now, although to implement things correctly of course you want things written to match from top to bottom and vice versa, so we have to wait a while. Interesting though that MS scrapped it for a few years then has now resurrected 'Longhorn'. Maybe they got wild ideas from Intel and the Itanium... Xeon - Experiment: 2x SL6EP 2.4/400@3450+|PC-DL 1.04-B05 BIOS1009|2Gb GeIL Ultra-X PC3200 2-2-2-5| Gigabyte 6600GT Fanless Heatpipes|silent Samsung HD's|Antec Titan550|stock voltages|IWT+Agilent cooler| AMD - Experiment: Opteron165 1.8@2.25 CCBWE 0551WPMW|stock heatpipe HSF|HP/nVidia QuadroFX4500| Antec TPII 550W|Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe|4Gb Corsair TwinX2048-4000PT|2x Dell 2405FPW's|more 2 come..|

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#37302 Posted on: 07/20/2005 01:31 AM I guess my standards are a little lower... I'm just hoping it will: Make my whites whiter Remove wine stains with it's powerful oxyginating action (pronounced: paaaaarful ogggsijinating akshun) Make great beef jerky Make hassle free pasta Replace over $1500 in blenders and food processors Turn my leftovers into a tasty treat Bring back my 6-pack abs from yesteryear Brighten my teeth Show me how to buy foreclosed property for pennies on the dollar with no down payment Replace over $2500 in ladders and stools Give me a healthy low-risk tan Chop through drywall and stoneboard and still be razor sharp Have a nonstick surface that is guaranteed to last through the apaoclypse And available with an easy payment plan. (plus it better have hardware accelerated graphic novelties or I'm gonna be sorely dissapointed) The pathetic state of our government will never change unless we stop electing politicians and start electing public servants. Remember: There was once a time when the term "politician" had a very negative connotation.

danwat1234 Registered User Posts: 233 Joined: 2003-12-21

#37303 Posted on: 07/20/2005 04:22 AM Will not support office XP *[SIZE=1]joke OLD:[[ 1x athlon MP 2800+ (running at 2.3GHZ) at 1.775v, 1GB (2x512MB) RAM, 2x 300GB maxtor diamondmax 10 Geforce fx 5600, 430watt Enermax PSU ]] New: G50VT x9100 3.06-3.6GHZ C2D laptop, 80GB Intel G2 SSD, 750GB Scorpio Black, Win8 Pro w/Start8 to bypass Metro w/XP Startmenu logo. Aftermarket new 9 cell battery, Ebay is awesome. Crunches nearly 24/7 on both cores and on GPU, reliable! Stresses those aftermarket AC adapters.

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#37304 Posted on: 07/20/2005 05:55 AM Originally posted by shoarthing . . . & will a Blu-ray drive be required to read the install-disk? If Longhorn will be coming on a 'disk' then I fail to see how a blu-ray drive would be necessary. Unless they plan to change storage nomenclature as part of the upgrade.

Slaughter111 Registered User Posts: 714 Joined: 2002-12-22

#37305 Posted on: 07/20/2005 07:57 AM i wanna see it do everything they claim it will do on a system that is up to it's specs, except do it on a Celeron 600MHz!!! if Longhorn on a 600MHz Celeron w/Geforce4 32MB class graphics and a mere 256MB of memory will perform like XP on a 3.2GHz P4 w/FX 6800 128MB class graphics and a whopping 1GB of memory, hey, i'll be impressed. :eek: A+ | MCSA | MCITP | CommVault CVSA/CVSE | VMware VCP 4 Heatware: Slaughter111

proffesso Winner of the Internet Posts: 1485 Joined: 2001-06-25

#37306 Posted on: 07/20/2005 11:14 AM hell, im impressed you put the geforce4 on a 600mhz celeron chasing tokyo girls

Mr Bill two by two, hands of blue Posts: 2939 Joined: 2002-02-16

#37307 Posted on: 07/21/2005 11:37 PM Originally posted by duke The Inquirer has a small post up stating that Microsoft believes Longhorn will be faster than previous MS operating systems. Those include the ability to launch apps 15% faster than Windows XP, boot PCs 50% faster, patch systems with 50% fewer reboots, and let firms migrate to Longhorn 75% per cent faster. You can read it for yourself over here. Here ya go for free even [URL=http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24749]Longhorn's most useful feature "leaked "as XP tweak [/URL]. Maybe you won't need a blu-ray drive after all. My SMP rig [URL="http://personal.palouse.net/billshan/ghost.htm#A_Merlin"]Merlin[/URL]

Slaughter111 Registered User Posts: 714 Joined: 2002-12-22

#37308 Posted on: 07/22/2005 12:30 AM Originally posted by proffesso hell, im impressed you put the geforce4 on a 600mhz celeron lol, you're right - that should have been a geforce 256. Originally posted by Mr Bill Here ya go for free even [URL=http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24749]Longhorn's most useful feature "leaked "as XP tweak [/URL]. Maybe you won't need a blu-ray drive after all. i've recently tried this. very recently, so i have not had much time to test the accusations. but i must admit it 'feels' a tad snappier in XP x64 now. A+ | MCSA | MCITP | CommVault CVSA/CVSE | VMware VCP 4 Heatware: Slaughter111

AssKoala Anti-Zealot @ GATech Posts: 3302 Joined: 2002-01-02

#37309 Posted on: 07/22/2005 06:31 AM Originally posted by Mr Bill Here ya go for free even [URL=http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24749]Longhorn's most useful feature "leaked "as XP tweak [/URL]. Maybe you won't need a blu-ray drive after all. Is everyone in the world really that dense? http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?threadid=66846 At least benchmark things before believing random crap posted off an email response on theinq. Me Webpage | If you always think like an expert, you'll always be a beginner. | "A handful of knowledgeable people is more effective than an army of fools" -Writing Secure Code, 2nd Ed.

Slaughter111 Registered User Posts: 714 Joined: 2002-12-22

#37310 Posted on: 07/22/2005 07:13 AM Originally posted by AssKoala Is everyone in the world really that dense? http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?threadid=66846 At least benchmark things before believing random crap posted off an email response on theinq. geeee's, he should see a professional about that; there is obviously a lot of rage and anger inside!!!:eek: anyway, even though you ruined our 'placebo' high, thanks for the advice.... A+ | MCSA | MCITP | CommVault CVSA/CVSE | VMware VCP 4 Heatware: Slaughter111

Mr Bill two by two, hands of blue Posts: 2939 Joined: 2002-02-16

#37311 Posted on: 07/22/2005 09:04 AM Originally posted by AssKoala Is everyone in the world really that dense? http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?threadid=66846 At least benchmark things before believing random crap posted off an email response on theinq. I would except Win XP shall never touch a system of mine and neither will Longhorn. I figured one of you can see if its true. My SMP rig [URL="http://personal.palouse.net/billshan/ghost.htm#A_Merlin"]Merlin[/URL]

audioaficionado SMP aficionado too Posts: 3961 Joined: 2003-08-23

#37312 Posted on: 07/22/2005 09:59 AM I like XP since I've secured it for my security (not Billie's). I use XPantispy to lock it down and double check which behind your back services I can disable. Longhorn... Forgetaboutit! Super Micro X8DTH-iF, Dual Westmere Xeons E5620 @2.4GHz Iwill DH800, Dual Prestionia Xeons 2.4 M0 @1.50v 220Mhz 3.3GHz Micronics W6-Lightning, Dual Pentium Pro @200MHz 512 KiB L2 Location: 42.3 N 122.9 W Medford, Oregon, USA Outside with my telescopes looking at the universe

AssKoala Anti-Zealot @ GATech Posts: 3302 Joined: 2002-01-02

#37313 Posted on: 07/22/2005 04:53 PM Originally posted by audioaficionado I like XP since I've secured it for my security (not Billie's). I use XPantispy to lock it down and double check which behind your back services I can disable. You're kidding, right? I mean, here's a quote right off the XP-Antispy page: For example, there's a service running in the background which is called 'Automatic Updates'. I don't know what this service transfers from my machine to other machines on the internet, especially the MS ones. Do you really want to software where that's part of their claim? Automatic Updates have been documented fully and other parties have sniffed all the packets sent to find.... ..wait for it... NOTHING! Yes, that's right, absolutely nothing. Just like nothing was found in every other crackpot theory service. Man, you should see what MS gets when you send them an error report. You may not want them to have any personal info whatsoever, but at least find out what is actually sent before using a piece of software that is potentially worse than sending technical information to Microsoft. Me Webpage | If you always think like an expert, you'll always be a beginner. | "A handful of knowledgeable people is more effective than an army of fools" -Writing Secure Code, 2nd Ed.

Kimpsu Registered User Posts: 515 Joined: 2003-01-09

#37314 Posted on: 07/25/2005 05:58 PM Well, as the final name of the product (Windows Vista) is now decided, I am beginning to wonder, when will Windows Vista be added to the 2cpu forums alongside XP, Server 2003, Linux and so on?

rmn oh my, it's huge! Posts: 5894 Joined: 2002-01-26

#37315 Posted on: 07/25/2005 07:56 PM It's funny that they picked that word for an OS that has been stripped of some of its most intersting features (WinFS, etc.). "Vista" means "a view" but also it's also the past participle of the verb "ver" - in other words, it means "something that we've seen before". RMN ~~~

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