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2CPU.com » News » December 2005 » Supercomputing 2005 Hosts TYAN

Supercomputing 2005 Hosts TYAN

Posted by: admin on: 12/07/2005 03:08 PM [ Print | 4 comment(s) ]

SC|05, 11/11/2005 - At this year's Supercomputing 2005 event, Tyan Computer Corp. and Rocketcalc LLC both showcased the latest in server and clustering technology including a world first: the Personal Supercomputer. The Personal Supercomputer (PSC) project represents the latest in a series of initiatives from the research and IT community to support small science, a term applied to scientific applications powered by scaled down machines designed to deliver supercomputing performance at a fraction of the cost. Machines with enough power to run tsunami simulations, but small enough to fit on a desktop! Find out more by visiting Rocketcalc's website.



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#38488 Posted on: 12/08/2005 02:04 AM
Given that it can run off of a standard 120v outlet, it must be populated with the (expensive!) low power chips. Cool stuff, but if you can afford a few more amps on your circuit, you could just cluster up 8 1U dual core servers.

Is there really a market for these micro-clusters, or are these systems just neat PR pieces?

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#38490 Posted on: 12/08/2005 04:41 PM
Hmm - 8 * 100 W at 80% efficiency = 1000 Watts drawn
110 v * 15 amps = 1650 Watts; leaving a good chunk for memory and stuff.
Not so expensive chips at 100W thermal output.

The chips will be expensive I **expect** because the will use the 8-way ones with the extra hyper link...
The big difference between your 8 1u servers is the memory bandwidth/latency between the cores.

Those Hypertransport link between the CPUs add up to lots of GBytes/sec - worst case access memory being two HyperTransport latencys; ie high speed buss transactions versus the network access methodology of the 1Us..


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#38491 Posted on: 12/08/2005 04:57 PM
i just reread the site - 4 boards - networked with Gigabit networking with 20 microsecond latency (optional IPMI )
so there are 4 groups of (2 or 4 cores that can acess memory with NUMA speeds) where memory access between the groups is LAN speed.

Not so attractive;- my app is not that distributable and 20 microsecs is a LONG time.
But it does mean they can use the MUCH cheaper 2 way CPUs.




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#38493 Posted on: 12/08/2005 10:08 PM
It is nice that you can get quasi-COTS NUMA gear. The HyperTransport links definitely make access to non-local memory faster, but what is the granularity of memory access?

Suppose you have a hash table that all of your processors need to share. The table resides in the memory of core #0, and cores #1, #2, and #3 need to access it. Will mutexes grind the system to a halt, or will an application like this fly on a NUMA box?

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