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The 20" LCD Shootout: Dell versus Apple

Posted by: duke on: 04/28/2005 01:30 PM [ Print | 13 comment(s) ]

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AssKoala Anti-Zealot @ GATech Posts: 3309 Joined: 2002-01-02

#36045 Posted on: 04/28/2005 08:01 PM Man, that 2005FPW is looking good. I wouldn't mind picking one up Me Webpage | If you always think like an expert, you'll always be a beginner. | "A handful of knowledgeable people is more effective than an army of fools" -Writing Secure Code, 2nd Ed.

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audioaficionado SMP aficionado too Posts: 3536 Joined: 2003-08-23

#36046 Posted on: 04/28/2005 09:09 PM I'd like the Dell 2405 even better However that 30" Apple looked great if you didn't look at the price tag. OSX and that display looked good together. Iwill DH800, 2GB (2x1024) OCZ4002048PFDC-K 2.5-3-3-8-1t Dual Prestionia Xeons 2.4 M0 @1.50v 220Mhz 3.3GHz Location: 42.3 N 122.9 W Medford, Oregon, USA

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opus13 misanthrope. Posts: 1628 Joined: 2002-04-05

#36047 Posted on: 04/28/2005 09:24 PM Originally posted by audioaficionado I'd like the Dell 2405 even better However that 30" Apple looked great if you didn't look at the price tag. OSX and that display looked good together. i had a weird experience with the apple 30". i went on down to compusa where they always have a current mac dispaly, and started to play around looking at images. within 2 minutes i had a raging headache. i thought that was weird i so i walked away for a bit. the headache left shortly after, so i went back, and the headache returned. maybe the refresh rate was out of sync with the fluorescents, maybe it was a coincidence, i dont know... but i find it really hard to like that display

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Hooz Administrator Posts: 2337 Joined: 2000-03-29

#36048 Posted on: 04/28/2005 09:35 PM I've had my 2005FPW since November of last year and I LOVE it! The only display that could tear me away would be the 2405FPW, and I'm working on that Although... The 17" widescreen on my new Inspiron 9300 (1440x900) is pretty amazing too... [size=1][url="http://www.2cpu.com"]2CPU.com[/url] - Because two are always better than one! Are you folding? [url="http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=3074"]2CPU.com Folding@Home Team[/url] [url="http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=19979"]My Heatware[/url][/size]

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Cynan SMP Qualified Posts: 254 Joined: 2000-11-02

#36049 Posted on: 04/29/2005 01:07 AM They don't offer the 24" one on the UK site :'( It sucks. SuperMicro P3TDDE, Dual Intel Pentium III 800EBs (cB0), 3x128MB PC133 RAM (Generic), 10.2GB Seagate U10 (ATA-66) HD, 30.0GB Seagate U5 (ATA-100) HD, 20.0GB Maxtor 541DX (ATA-100)) HD, Creative 48x CD-ROM Drive, Creative 12/40x DVD-ROM Drive (1241E), Yamaha CRW4260T CD-RW (SCSI), Creative GeForce2 GTS (AGP), Belkin 4-Port USB Card (Slot3), Adaptec 2910AU SCSI Controller Card (Slot4), Creative SoundBlaster Live! Platinum (Slot5).

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Quink Registered User Posts: 126 Joined: 2003-04-08

#36050 Posted on: 04/29/2005 02:05 AM Its a dell. How can that impress you? You get what you pay for and if its a high-end monitor for very cheap, then that normally means you'll end up with a steaming pile of shit. Just my opinion though, but my experiences with dell thus far have been bad and they are quite a bother if you have the slightest trouble with anything. I'd rather pay twice as much to get something half as good then buy from dell.

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Fatass SMP Newbie Posts: 1 Joined: 2005-03-12

#36051 Posted on: 04/29/2005 02:59 AM I was a bit sceptical about buying a Dell too, but after a few days using my new 2405FPW this was over instantly The 2405FPW is a beautiful monitor, having very good colors, pretty good pixel transition times, lots of inputs and a very high viewing angle. Too bad this monitor is a few 100 dollars more expensive in Europe than in the US.

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nine Registered User Posts: 1313 Joined: 2004-03-11

#36052 Posted on: 04/29/2005 03:30 AM Originally posted by Quink Its a dell. How can that impress you? You get what you pay for and if its a high-end monitor for very cheap, then that normally means you'll end up with a steaming pile of shit. Just my opinion though, but my experiences with dell thus far have been bad and they are quite a bother if you have the slightest trouble with anything. I'd rather pay twice as much to get something half as good then buy from dell. I guess you didn't happen to notice that the two monitors tested used the identical LG screen.

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jhaislet "Let's Roll" Posts: 3257 Joined: 2002-06-25

#36053 Posted on: 04/29/2005 03:52 AM The physical LCD screens don't make or break the display. It's the chips that interface the DVI connection to the screen & drive the screen which cause the wide variations. Noise or fluctuations at the chipset level can make even the best screens look like crap. Kinda like the transmission in a race car. You could have the best engine, frame, and tires in the world, but if your tranny sucks, you'd be lucky to even finish the race Mini-ITX Systems: AOpen MP965-DR Core2Duo Mobility T7500 4MB L2, 4GB DDR2 (Vista MCE)| MSI Industrial 945GM2 Celeron M 430 | Intel Little Valley 2 (Firewall) | Via EPIA EN-1500 (Firewall)|

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Quink Registered User Posts: 126 Joined: 2003-04-08

#36054 Posted on: 04/29/2005 04:09 AM I noticed they had the same panel, but the overall package you get from dell sucks. I tried one of their 'top of the line' 17" lcds and was blown away by its bad quality.

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Phil Registered User Posts: 343 Joined: 2001-10-29

#36055 Posted on: 04/29/2005 04:06 PM Originally posted by nine I guess you didn't happen to notice that the two monitors tested used the identical LG screen. I thought that that bit of information was the most interesting (and surprising) part of the review really. I know both companies are rebadge masters these days, but still. Good detailed review, cheers duke.

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audioaficionado SMP aficionado too Posts: 3536 Joined: 2003-08-23

#36056 Posted on: 05/01/2005 07:36 AM Originally posted by Quink Its a dell. How can that impress you? You get what you pay for and if its a high-end monitor for very cheap, then that normally means you'll end up with a steaming pile of shit. Just my opinion though, but my experiences with dell thus far have been bad and they are quite a bother if you have the slightest trouble with anything. I'd rather pay twice as much to get something half as good then buy from dell. Since Dell doesn't make it but has it made and rebadged, maybe, just maybe the people who make it do a good job. I wouldn't mind having a 2405 for less than $1000. Don't judge a book by its cover or you might end up missing a great story. OTOH Samsung makes a 24" WS LCD PVA panel for ~$1500. I'm not sure if the response time is as quick as the Dell. Iwill DH800, 2GB (2x1024) OCZ4002048PFDC-K 2.5-3-3-8-1t Dual Prestionia Xeons 2.4 M0 @1.50v 220Mhz 3.3GHz Location: 42.3 N 122.9 W Medford, Oregon, USA

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Mr. Hahn Unregistered

#36057 Posted on: 05/02/2005 09:16 PM The apple displays are some of the best, but I always go with dell because they are probably about as good and a lot less expensive. Got my 17" w/ dvi for a cool 250 a while ago.