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Continuing with the Opteron/64bit theme, it looks like Microsoft's new server OS will support IA64, but will lack any x86-64 support at launch. As I said before, it shouldn't matter much since the Opteron chews through 32bit code like a beaver on crack, but it's interesting nonetheless.

At its April event in San Francisco, Microsoft will roll out specifically for Itanium two high-end versions of its Windows Server 2003 operating system, it first server OS update in three years. The 32-bit versions of Windows Server 2003 will run on all x86 processors including AMD's Opteron which has both 32- and 64-bit modes.

09/09/2002 10:40 PM: Windows XP Service Pack 1 by Cory
Those of you running Microsoft's latest OS will be happy to know that Windows XP Service Pack 1 is officially out. Take a look at the changelog while you're downloading....

08/01/2002 12:05 AM: Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 Official by Hooz
Yes, we know that SP3 is available from Microsoft's official servers, but we were waiting to post it until it appeared on the service pack download page (it still hasn't been).I decided to go ahead an...

08/01/2001 04:43 AM: Windows XP RC2 Released by uberCory
Our illustrious leader says there's no news, and he rules with an Iron Fist (TM). None dare to challenge his decrees...none save...uberCory! (cue fanfare)Well...ok, I'll stop now. But only since yo...

07/25/2001 07:24 PM: Windows XP: Delay? by Jim
Zdnet has an article posted about the possibility of an XP delay... On Wednesday, a privacy group said it plans to file a formal complaint with the Federal Trade Commission over privacy concerns regar...

07/08/2001 06:57 PM: Windows XP: A Gamers Perspective... by Jim
I noticed this a few days ago over at GamePC. I wanted to post it sooner, but we were having some technical difficulties which were recently resolved. I know a lot of people have been reading about Wi...

05/24/2001 03:28 AM: Thoughts on Windows 2000 Service Pack 2 and VIA chipset support by uberCory
I love my 694D. I also love Windows 2000. As we all know, VIA + Win2k often != a working boxen. Blame it on Microsoft for not supporting VIA chipsets well, or blame VIA for their finicky 4-in-1's. ...

05/11/2001 07:06 PM: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2 Final? by uberCory
Gee, it sure looks that way. I wonder if this one contains proper VIA support. It would be nice to not have to install a million and one patches to the OS.Make sure you hop on over to the comments t...

03/27/2001 01:00 AM: Windows 2000 Services Tweak guide by nitro_fish
3DSpotlight has gotten their Win2k service tweak guide up. It looks pretty good to me; so if any of you guys want to tweak your services go check them out. In this guide I'll cover what each service ...

02/19/2001 06:52 PM: A look at Windows Product Activation by uberCory
I was poking around at Ars this morning, hoping that I'd find something less, err, Slashdotty than usual, and lo and behold: I was rewarded richly!As for most enthusiasts, the Hardware ID (HWID) makes...

02/07/2001 01:07 AM: Windows XP? by J0rdan
Jamie was kind enough to mail this one in. Grand ole Microsoft has finally announced an 'official' name for their next Operating System, Windows XP! Formally code-named "Whistler", Mr. Gates...

Jizzler Multi-Core Zealot Posts: 2066 Joined: 2000-10-28

#22206 Posted on: 03/22/2003 11:55 AM Doh, gotta limit my dual Opteron box to 4GB

BRM SMP lover Posts: 91 Joined: 2002-04-15

#22207 Posted on: 03/22/2003 05:30 PM Screw the 4gb limit, and MS for that matter, go Linux. Mandrake has released 9.0 for x86-64 And really I just want the hardware (really really bad).

Jizzler Multi-Core Zealot Posts: 2066 Joined: 2000-10-28

#22208 Posted on: 03/22/2003 06:46 PM Ahh... I'll just wait

jhaislet "Let's Roll" Posts: 3257 Joined: 2002-06-25

#22209 Posted on: 03/22/2003 10:02 PM I thought microshaft and AMD formed a good partnership with Windows XP/ AMD XP processors. Why is microshaft screwing AMD now with Windows 2003 server? Mini-ITX Systems: AOpen MP965-DR Core2Duo Mobility T7500 4MB L2, 4GB DDR2 (Vista MCE)| MSI Industrial 945GM2 Celeron M 430 | Intel Little Valley 2 (Firewall) | Via EPIA EN-1500 (Firewall)|

bongholio SMP Newbie Posts: 4 Joined: 2004-05-20

#22210 Posted on: 03/23/2003 09:06 AM Makes you wonder how much these guys at silicon strategies really know... It's Blackcomb, not "Black Home"...

Mr Bill two by two, hands of blue Posts: 2946 Joined: 2002-02-16

#22211 Posted on: 03/23/2003 12:10 PM To paraphrase someone over at Silicon Investor 'Bill Gates probably wakes up with a horse head in his bed every morning' He goes on to suggest that 'Intel Inside' stands for 'Intimidation Inside' and that Microsoft will be galvanized (zinc plated) into action when they notice how many Opteron servers are running 64-bit Linux. My SMP rig [URL="http://personal.palouse.net/billshan/ghost.htm#A_Merlin"]Merlin[/URL]

jhaislet "Let's Roll" Posts: 3257 Joined: 2002-06-25

#22212 Posted on: 03/23/2003 12:18 PM microshaft is definately shooting themselves in the foot with this decision. Once companies make the migration over to one of the linux distro's and have hired the support/development/deployment personell, they probably won't be switching back to windows anytime soon for their servers. Mini-ITX Systems: AOpen MP965-DR Core2Duo Mobility T7500 4MB L2, 4GB DDR2 (Vista MCE)| MSI Industrial 945GM2 Celeron M 430 | Intel Little Valley 2 (Firewall) | Via EPIA EN-1500 (Firewall)|

puppet Got Little Feat Posts: 1100 Joined: 2001-08-15

#22213 Posted on: 03/23/2003 09:46 PM But in the meantime, what does this do to AMD desktop (64bit) sales? Tyan i840|2x1000|1GB PC800 RDRAM|4xQuantum 10kII|VisionTek X-6964|TBSC|Plextor 40max|S&F Mach 12|iiyama VM pro 501 & VM pro 502|mod'ed Toshiba Magnia 3010 chassis|600W PSU

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#22214 Posted on: 03/24/2003 07:26 PM all i want to know is.... how does a beaver smoke crack? never mind my dirty mind just gave me an image.... "Man who live in glass house should change clothes in basement."

Jizzler Multi-Core Zealot Posts: 2066 Joined: 2000-10-28

#22215 Posted on: 03/24/2003 08:12 PM Originally posted by puppet But in the meantime, what does this do to AMD desktop (64bit) sales? Probably nothing as the Athlon 64 isn't due til Sept It might turn away some of the single and dual Opteron early adopters though...

jeh mad scientist Posts: 3726 Joined: 2000-08-06

#22216 Posted on: 03/25/2003 02:01 AM If the [URL=http://www.vanshardware.com/news/2002/04/020422_AMD_Announces_Opteron/020422_Amd_Announces_Opteron.htm]rumors we've seen on the web[/URL] about the OS kernel team really liking x86-64 are true, it's going to royally piss them off as well. (You might recall that these are folks who were ready for MS to hire them away from DEC after DEC didn't make a product out of "Prism", a project into which they'd put many years of their lives) I suspect this "we don't know what [Windows Server 2003 64-bit Opteron Edition] would look like" has very little to do with coding and much to do with marketing, packaging, and licensing. Should it be available in Standard Server, Web Server, and Enterprise Server flavors? Or is Opteron, like the Itanium, considered such a high-end machine that only higher-end packages should be offered? etc.

Mr Bill two by two, hands of blue Posts: 2946 Joined: 2002-02-16

#22217 Posted on: 03/25/2003 08:29 PM There is a Newisys 1U Dual Opteron Server Preview here: http://www.amdzone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1258 Eight pages of pictures and descriptions of the Linux/Java system management tools, hardware and chipset. Edit: Teasers: 512MB My SMP rig [URL="http://personal.palouse.net/billshan/ghost.htm#A_Merlin"]Merlin[/URL]

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